The World Science Fiction Society

Minutes of the Business Meeting 1987

Part 1: The Preliminary Business Meeting

Date: Friday August 28th
Time: 9.00 am
Officers: Chairman Tim Stannard
Parliamentarian Ben Yalow
Secretary Tim Illingworth

A copy of the Agenda is attached to these minutes.

  1. Statement by Bidders for the 1990 Worldcon

    Ben Yalow, as Parliamentarian, read the following statement by the bidders for the 1990 Worldcon:
    The HOLLAND IN 1990 bid and the LOS ANGELES IN 1990 bid agree that they will accept the outcome of the Site Selection Voting as of 18:00 Saturday, 29th August 1987, no matter what that outcome may be. Both bids urge the Business Meeting of the World Science Fiction Convention not to contravene this agreement nor do anything to make the situation more complicated.

    A motion to commend the bidders on their decision was proposed by Robert Sacks and seconded by Robert Hillis, and was passed by acclamation.

  2. Nominations for Election to the Mark Registration and Protection Committee

    Four nominations were received:-
    Leslie Turek (Eastern), proposed by Donald Eastlake III
    Rick Katze (Eastern), proposed by Bruce Pelz
    Robert Hillis (Central), proposed by Mark Olson
    Elizabeth Gross (Central), proposed by Robert Sacks
    Rick Katze later withdrew his nomination.

Business Passed On To Conspiracy '87

  1. Short Title: NASFIC Representation

    An amendment to delete 'voting' and substitute 'non-voting' was proposed by Donald Eastlake and seconded by Rick Katze. This was ruled to be in order and was passed by 20 votes to 19. A 2 minute time limit for debate was set.

  2. Short Title: ConCom Financial Reporting Act

    A 3 minute time limit for debate was set.

  3. Short Title: Rotation Zone Refinement

    A secretarial amendment to restore St Pierre et Miquelon to the Eastern Zone from the Central was made, and a 2 minute time limit for debate was set.

  4. Short Title: Best Non-Fiction Book

    A 2 minute time limit for debate was set.

  5. Short Title: Notification of Hugo Nominees

    A 1 minute time limit for debate was proposed by Bruce Pelz and Rick Katze and a 3 minute time limit by Robert Sacks and Jill Eastlake. The 1 minute time limit for debate was passed.

  6. Short Title: Rules Distribution Amendment

    A 2 minute time limit for debate was set.

  7. Report of the WSFS Mark Registration and Protection Committee

    Rick Katze read the report, a copy of which is attached.

  8. Report of the Special Committee to Codify Business Meeting Resolutions

    Donald Eastlake presented his report, a copy of which is attached as part of the Agenda. He proposed two amendments to the Standing Rules. The first, which is a housekeeping measure to allow consequential amendments to be made to the Standing Rules was debated under a 30-second time limit and passed nem con. The second proposed two methods of continuing its work: the meeting chose the second option (continuation of the existing committee to 1988) by 28 votes to 25, and passed the resolution nem con.

New Business

  1. Short Title: Business Meeting Quorum

    An amendment to provide that no quorum should be necessary to hear the report of the Site Selection or to interview the winning and bidding committees (prop: Robert Sacks, sec: Elizabeth Gross) was defeated by lots of votes to 1 as the Chair ruled that no quorum was necessary to hear reports. A 2 minute time limit for debate was set.

  2. Short Title: Question Time

    A 2 minute time limit for debate was set.

  3. Short Title: Worldcon Processes Protection Amendment

    This motion was originally submitted with the folowing text:

    An Object to Consideration was called and passed by 30 votes to 11.

  4. Short Title: Broadened Hugo Nominations

    An Object to Consideration was called but was not seconded. A 6 minute time limit for debate was set.

  5. Short Title: NASFiC Selection Amendment

    An motion to separate the question was proposed by Gary Feldbaum and seconded by Robert Sacks. This was defeated by 28 votes to 27. A 6 minute time limit for debate was set.

  6. Short Title: Availability of Supporting Membership

    An Object to Consideration was called but was not seconded. An amendment to insert 'The rights of' at the start of the second sentence, and change 'have' to 'include' in the second sentence was accepted by Donald Eastlake, as proposer. An amendment to delete the 125% provision was proposed by Robert Sacks, but found no seconder. An amendment to define 'generally available publications' was withdrawn. A 5 minute time limit for debate was set, and the Business Meeting then adjourned until 9.30 am on Saturday 29 August.

Part 2: The Main Business Meeting

Date: Saturday August 29th
Time: 9.30 am
Officers: Chairman Tim Stannard
Parliamentarian Ben Yalow
Secretary Tim Illingworth

The Chairman announced that, since the Preliminary Business Meeting, another motion had been discovered in the recesses of Conspiracy's filing system. This motion proposed the restoration of the Pro-zine Hugo, but was not seconded and therefore would not have been on the agenda had it been found in time. No harm had therefore been done.

  1. Election to the Mark Registration and Protection Committee

    Three nominations were received:-
    Leslie Turek (Eastern), proposed by Donald Eastlake III
    Robert Hillis (Central), proposed by Mark Olson
    Elizabeth Gross (Central), proposed by Robert Sacks

    Since all three were eligible for election, they were declared elected.

Business Passed On To Conspiracy '87

  1. Short Title: NASFIC Representation

    Robert Sacks objected to the Preliminary Business Meeting's amendment. The Chair ruled that the amendment was a lesser change, and so in order. Robert appealed to the meeting, which confirmed the ruling by lots of votes to one. Robert then tried an amendment that the NASFiC member(s) could vote on NASFiC business only, but got no seconder. A motion to close debate was then passed by 30 votes to 20, and the motion was passed by lots of votes to 3.

  2. Short Title: ConCom Financial Reporting Act

    Robert Sacks proposed a motion to close debate, which attracted a lot of seconders, and was passed nem con. The motion was then passed nem con.

  3. Short Title: Rotation Zone Refinement

    Robert Sacks proposed a motion to close debate, which attracted a lot of seconders, and was passed nem con. The motion was then passed nem con.

  4. Short Title: Best Non-Fiction Book

    Robert Sacks proposed a motion to close debate, which attracted a lot of seconders, and was passed nem con. The motion was then passed by lots of votes to one.

  5. Short Title: Notification of Hugo Nominees

    Robert Sacks proposed a motion to close debate, which attracted a lot of seconders, and was passed nem con. The motion was then passed by lots of votes to 3.

  6. Short Title: Rules Distribution Amendment

    Robert Sacks proposed a motion to close debate, which attracted a lot of seconders, and was passed nem con. The motion was then passed nem con.

New Business

  1. Short Title: Business Meeting Quorum

    Robert Sacks proposed a motion to close debate which got a lot of seconders and was passed nem con. The motion was then passed by lots of votes to 3.

  2. Short Title: Question Time

    Mike Glyer asked, on a point of information, what uniform the Chairman was wearing. He replied that it was that of an Obersturmbannfuhrer in Das Reich Regiment of the Waffen SS, being the highest rank that had the SS flashes on the collar. A motion to change "send" to "designate" (prop: David Anderson, sec: Robert Sacks) was passed nem con. A motion to make the representative attend at their own expense found no seconder. The motion was then passed by lots of votes to about 10.

  3. Short Title: Broadened Hugo Nominations

    There was much debate on this item, especially about the effect of the Data Protection Act in Britain making it illegal to pass information stored on computer to other people. A motion to postpone was called, but was defeated by lots of votes to 5. An amendment to insert "except where prohibited by local law" (prop: Rick Katze, sec: lots of people) was passed by 39 votes to 34. The main motion was then carried by about 40 votes to about 30.

  4. Short Title: NASFiC Selection Amendment

    This motion was passed after little debate by about 40 votes to 3.

  5. Short Title: Availability of Supporting Membership

    An amendment to insert 'The rights of' at the start of the fifth sentence, and change 'have' to 'include' in the fifth sentence was accepted by Donald Eastlake, as proposer. A motion to close debate was then passed nem con. The motion was then passed by about 50 votes to 2, and the Business Meeting then adjourned until 10.00 am on Sunday 30August.

Part 3: The Site Selection Business Meeting

Date: Sunday August 30th
Time: 10.00 am
Officers: Chairman Tim Stannard
Parliamentarian Ben Yalow
Secretary Tim Illingworth

  1. Announcement of the 1990 Worldcon site and statement by the winner

    Paul Dormer presented the results of the Site Selection ballot for the 1990 Worldcon. These were as follows:

    MailOn SiteTOTAL
    Los Angeles in 1990128402530
    Holland in 199098712810
    No preference5914
    None of the above156
    Write in-33
    Spoiled-1010
    TOTAL23211411373

    The write-ins were for Jack Herman, Minneapolis in 1973 and Karnak in 1990

    Kees van Toorn then announced that ConFiction will run from 23 August to 27 August 1990, with guests Joe Haldeman, Wolfgang Jeschke, Harry Harrison and Andrew Porter and Toastmistress Chelsea Quinn Yarbro. Their nominee to the Mark Registration and Protection Committee is Morris Keesan.

  2. Presentations by the bidders for the 1991 Worldcon

    Ross Pavlac made a presentation for Chicago in 1991, and Greg Rickards for Sydney in 1991.

  3. Motion to adjourn sine die

    Robert Sacks proposed the motion to adjourn sine die, which attracted a lot of seconders, and was passed nem con. The meeting accordingly went in search of an open bar.


Pat McMurray pat@cooky.demon.co.uk
Last Update: January 2000